SUMMARY KEYWORDS

communication, laughter, podcast, parents, share, speak, communicate, foul language, absolutely, life, person, episode, teenager, agree, listening, support, important, comment, dialogue

SPEAKERS

Kathi, Daisy

Daisy 00:02

Bald and Blonde. Welcome to the mindset evolution podcast hear about tips, tricks, skills, tools, inspiration, mental hygiene, know what you want and how to create what you desire to achieve predictable results and create a content life wherever you are until your hosts, Kathi Tait and Daisy Papp.

Kathi 00:26

Hi everybody. This is Kathi Tait, the baldwarrior here talking to you live from Australia on the Bald and Blonde Mindset Evolution podcast. And with me as always is Daisy Papp from Florida Keys. Hi Daisy, how are you?

Daisy 00:43

Hi, I'm extremely well thank you so much for making your time in a timely manner to meet again and to do this because this is so exciting and I love doing it and I'm very busy on the other hand, of course with clients, but I just make it a priority to take that time and set it aside and don't take appointments and don't work late at night, but meet with you to make the world a better place. And this is just lovely. How are you, my dear friend?

Kathi 01:13

Wow, I love that Daisy, because we have done a whole episode around time. And we actually mentioned being on time in our last episode as well, which was on boundaries. 

Kathi 01:25

I am great Daisy. I'm having a very busy and very productive week. So I'm excited to be here also and dedicate this time to our special baby, this podcast where we get to help people out there and today, I've decided we're going to talk about communication. 

Daisy 01:43

Mmh?

Kathi 01:44

Now it is a bit of a lead on from our last episode where we spoke about boundaries. And in that episode, Daisy brought up a really important key point that I think is so important to communication that I think we're going to talk about it again briefly. In case you haven't listened to the last episode, but if you haven't guys, you must go back and do that. So before we get into that, communication to me is a two-way street. I think success in communication relies on one person being able to express themselves and the other person being willing to listen to understand. And if any of those elements aren't quite right, communication can go very wrong very fast. To bring us back to the important key point is Daisy was speaking about the first person singular and what that means within the communication framework. Can we revisit that briefly Daisy to explain what I'm talking about?

Daisy 02:49

Of course, anything. Before I go there to first person singular, let me express my okay because we're communicating right? (Laughter). Healthy communication to me is to understand and be understood without the need to be right. 

Kathi 03:05

Yes. 

Daisy 03:06

So that's a very important essential part, I'd say without the need to be right.

Kathi 03:11

Absolutely. I absolutely agree with that. 

Daisy 03:14

I'm glad you do. (Laughter) So that is one part. Then the next thing is when you say it's a two-way street, it depends on the form of communication, our listeners out there, it's a one way street to them. They are listening to us.

Kathi 03:28

That is true. And of course we address that by putting the ability to give us feedback everywhere. (Laughter)

Daisy 03:37

True, in the group and even on the website, that's brand new, because we have just amazing news, but I let Kathi pop that pop of news. 

Daisy 03:48

We want to define, okay, what is it? Is it a monologue, or is it a dialogue? Mono means okay, it's one. Those who are in the music industry are doing podcasts or recording or listening to music, you usually enjoy stereo, much more than mono. Me personally, I do, I think other music lovers as well. Once it is agreed upon that this is going to be a dialogue, then both parties should be responsible to be open both ways. 

Kathi 04:18

Yes

Daisy 04:19

So when I'm speaking, I'm the one sending a message. You can imagine now, an old fashioned envelope where I'm putting something in there that I want to send to Kathi, and then she's the receiver. Now I can actually look, is it a good time that I'm sending, is she occupied, is she in the mood? That's what I can control kind of thing by my observation. That I sent the message and then now I turn into the receiver, because you become the sender. It's like the two tennis giants, Djokovic and Federer, I know there are others out there too, but I'm still, I like Roger Federer, yes Switzerland and who is number one, these gentlemen, on and off the tennis courts, my personal applause to him. And on the tennis court, what do they do? The ball goes back and forth, so that there must be some flow in the communication. And of course, it is helpful when we speak the same language. 

Kathi 05:17

Very helpful.

Daisy 05:18

Because wenn ich jetzt mit dir auf Deutsch weiterspreche, dann verstehst du mich nicht mehr, pause, because you're trying to find any data that's related to 

Kathi 05:28

not even one word (Laughter)

Daisy 05:32

I just said in German that if I continue speaking German to you, then you would probably not understand one word of it. So I think it is helpful that we speak in a language that we can agree upon, we both understand and enjoy. 

Kathi Tait 05:46

Yes

Daisy 05:47

I can give you an example about that. My son and I, we both speak three languages, the same three languages and we switch back and forth and something and sometimes he says mom, can you say it in German, please? if he's in the mood, or if he's not in the mood to set sail in English, so that's okay. And then we can agree upon. So that's why the part of language can be really important. 

Daisy 06:09

And then the next thing is okay is the other person open to receive, because let's say you're absolutely stressed, you're late, you have two other tests to do and it's almost midnight and you're tired and you have toothache and you have headaches and you need to go use the bathroom. It's probably not an opportune moment to communicate to you about the vacation we want to take in 2025 or the retreats that we're planning on doing in Fiji next year, so it's probably not opportune. So it's my responsibility. 

Daisy 06:36

And then when we communicate, what is it, it's actually it's sharing and caring. So I share with you what's going on in my head, my thoughts. I share with you what's going on in my heart, my feelings, emotions, I share with you, maybe some of my concerns, I share with you some of my experiences and then that is the tennis, is just going back and forth. And we are not like two tennis players on the court. This is not about winning the US Open or the Australian Open, none of that, mmh?

Kathi 07:07

No 

Daisy 07:07

That's what communication is not! But the ball in this metaphor, the back and forth, that is why it's a dialogue. So let's go back to the tennis court, because communication can be healthy and we can discuss something or we can move forward, we can come to a conclusion, to an agreement or we come to laughter together, or we cry together. These are all aspects of communication. 

Kathi 07:32

Yes. 

Daisy 07:33

And the communication is only over when I put down my racket. Game over. Okay, so we discussed that there are these people they repeat themselves over and over again.

Kathi 07:43

(Whispering) I have a couple of family members. (Laughter and indistinct whispering...we agree not....not close family.) I know a couple people like that in my life that do tend to repeat themselves. 

Daisy 08:01

So what do you do then? 

Kathi 08:02

Then there was this one particular person who was just an acquaintance and I genuinely didn't know what to do because she thought she was funny. She would tell these stories and laugh at herself and it was like, she was just entertaining yourself. But she also would repeat things and tell the same stories over and over. 

Daisy 08:22

What did you do? How did you respond? 

Kathi 08:24

 I didn't hang out with her as much.

Daisy 08:26

How sad, I think.

Kathi 08:28

Yeah, because in those days, there's no way I would have confronted somebody with that in fear of hurting their feelings. Which we spoke about last episode.

Daisy 08:40

Yeah. 

Kathi Tait 08:40

Boundaries. 

Daisy 08:40

The boundaries episode

Kathi 08:41

Yeah. 

Daisy 08:41

So okay, but let's go back to communication. 

Kathi 08:44

Yes. 

Daisy 08:45

Because maybe the two of you could have had great communication had you communicated with her, that it's not that entertaining for you when she's repeating the same story over and again, so there was a lack of communication producing some problem. 

Kathi 09:01

Yeah, sure, yeah. 

Daisy 09:02

Now part of communication is also that I share with you, I help you remember that you already told me, so I can do that in a gentle way. I can say, I remember you already told me that. I help you remember what you did or didn't say.

Kathi 09:18

Yeah

Daisy 09:18

That's gentle. And maybe she could have told you some incredible life stories, or maybe laughed together or maybe laughed about her telling the same story again, because the moment when we stop communication, that's quite a statement too, isn't it? 

Kathi 09:32

Yes, it is. 

Daisy 09:33

So you see, there's so many aspects it's exciting. Communication is so important. I love it, by the way, when I see people who communicate through sign language.

Kathi 09:43

Oh, they're amazing, aren't they?

Daisy 09:45

And they can be so expressive, and it is, wow, I wish I understood, mmh?

Kathi 09:51

Yes, for sure.

Daisy 09:52

So you see, communication is very important. Now what I think is very good for all humans, be fair, choose your words wisely and remember foul language is a no go. 

Kathi 10:03

Yeah.

Daisy 10:03

I don't care where anyone acquired their talents of using foul language. It's a no go. Because the moment I add that kind of, to me personally unnecessary, spice into communication, it goes a certain way. Leave it out, try to leave it out. Actually, let me correct that. I do care where you acquired the foul language. Let's address it. Let's heal it and stop doing it because you will feel better about yourself.

Kathi 10:30

That's a great point. Daisy. Absolutely,

Daisy 10:32

Yes, I got a point. Yes. (Laughter)

Kathi 10:37

Let's give our listeners a simple communication exercise they can go home and do with someone in their family.

Daisy 10:45

First person singular. 

Daisy 10:46

Now I go back to your requests next time when you say hey, you're leaving the socks out there again, turn it around, speak what you're observing as if you were a surveillance camera. I see some socks here and I'm not really sure what I should think about that. That's a great skill. By the way, the mother of one of my teachers, she was so elegant because instead of her reacting, she always inserted that little thingy. She asked herself a question. She did this in German language. And she asked as to what should I think about that now? So she gained some time to respond instead of react. So next time you see the laundry still in the hallway, or on the floor, or on the bedroom, or the couch or wherever, just say what you're experiencing and share how it makes you feel. And then add your request what you would like instead. That's clear and then let's see what happens. Give us feedback. 

Daisy 11:38

I love that. I love that, so simple. And how about one that a teenager could do?

Daisy 11:45

A teenager? 

Kathi 11:45

Yes. 

Daisy 11:46

What would be a topic? What's the context?

Kathi 11:48

How about they have got a new boyfriend or girlfriend and the parents trying to ask about it and they don't want to talk about it, but they also don't want to cause conflict with their parent.

Daisy 12:00

Okay, so we're trying to help the parents out there or the teenager, hmm? Two different things. (Laughter)

Kathi 12:09

I don't know, I have a feeling that this will reach into some teenagers' ears, so let's do it from the teenager's point of view.

Daisy 12:16

So let's say that there is a nagging parent, hey, but tell me that so you have a girlfriend finally or you have a boyfriend now or what's going on there, is that the kind...?

Kathi 12:24

Yeah, yeah. And all the stuff that parents do around that can be very frustrating for a teenager when they just want to do their thing. 

Daisy 12:33

Explore. I think for all teenagers out there, when your parents are caring parents, they can still be annoying at times. I'm a mother myself. And so is Kathi.

Kathi 12:42

I am, yes. 

Daisy 12:43

We do really care for what you do at all times, all the time, a lifetime long. So you will not be able to outgrow this. It will not go to disappear. That's it, that's mom.

Kathi 12:56

We can both attest to that, mine's 26, yours is 28, I think?

Daisy 13:01

No sir he's just turned 30 (laughter & indistinct comments)

Kathi 13:08

It doesn't change no matter how old they get.

Daisy 13:11

Imagine that your parents care, they don't ask for nagging. They don't ask because they want to nag you, they ask probably because they're curious. They want to know what's going on in your life and they want to also be sure that you're okay, wherever you are in your life.

Kathi 13:26

Yes, it is often your safety whether it seems reasonable or not, parents worry about their kids.

Daisy 13:32

Yeah. So now as a teenager, what you can do. Let's say your parent asked you once, I would be frank, I'd say, depends if you have a new friend or not. Yes, I'm trying to figure out I really like that one person and I thought it's a wise thing to get to know them better. 

Kathi 13:47

Hey, kids say that to your parents and see if it leaves them speechless. (laughter)

Daisy 13:56

Could be.

Kathi 13:56

I think it might.

Daisy 14:00

 And then here to the parents let's... because I don't want to abandon them in this case scenario.

Kathi 14:04

No, let's help them too.

Daisy 14:05

Parents, yes. Ask them. And if you have the experience that your children are honest, sincere, then believe them. If you have a cheeky sneaky child that has the tendency to bend here a little bit or bend there a little bit, then there's a different problem involved as well, that can be addressed. When it's about, okay, let's build trust here, because you're going to be a grown up shortly and I would like to make sure that you're aware of it, how important it is for me that you're responsible human being that is sincere and can be trusted, because I want to treat you as a young adult. And in order for me to do that, I need to be able to trust you and know that when you say something to me that I can take it to the bank that it's true.

Kathi 14:49

Absolutely. And I think that is an extremely important pillar in any of our relationships, and it's especially apparent when we're talking about teenagers 'cause you go through so much as a teenager and having your parent on your side is going to make your life a lot easier. And I worked hard to build a great relationship with my son when he was a teenager, so he felt safe in coming to me with anything he was struggling with. So, you know, we want to support and encourage that.

Daisy 15:20

I think honesty is very key. That's another part of communication. Unless I'm a stand up comedian and tell you the green, the blue and the yellow from the walls, then that's my job because I'm entertaining you in that setting. But I do believe that honesty is very important, because otherwise, who am I lying to? I'm setting up already lies in the entire setting. 

Kathi 15:40

Absolutely. 

Daisy 15:41

So if I want honesty, then I better be an honest person. 

Kathi 15:44

Absolutely 

Daisy 15:44

Agreed?

Kathi 15:45

Yes, absolutely. Definitely another pillar. 

Daisy 15:48

And I want to say I honestly appreciate our supporters. Thank you so much. Really, that's wonderful. Thank you, what a nice gesture to share with us that you appreciate what you're doing and your comments as well with the support, so that we can keep up with our technical stuff here and the staff.

Kathi 16:04

Yes.

Daisy 16:05

That's wonderful, thanks so much.

Kathi 16:07

We're very thankful for everyone out there who's supported us in all the ways they can. And actually we have a little announcement today we have... 

Daisy 16:16

Bring it on! 

Kathi 16:19

We have just launched our website, the home of the Bald and Blonde podcast and the address is baldandblonde.live. So you can head over there and check out information about Daisy and I and our backgrounds and to get access to all the other things that we do. Plus we have special write-ups on each episode, the ability to listen right there on the website, and so much more. We are going to produce special podcast packs for every episode we do that helps you dive deeper into the topic, into the lessons we discuss and give you some exercises that you can actually do at home. So we're really excited. Every episode that has been published to date has a podcast pack there for you to go and download today. So check it out!

Daisy 17:15

That's wonderful, so much effort in that and I believe this is the future of learning because you can go precisely to topic and you can dive in deeper, you can share, you can learn something, change your own life, create the life you really dream of. That's why it's called Dream Life Creators on Facebook in the group and we share a lot of specials there that are dear to us. And you can get to know us a little bit closer as we are sharing some personal insights and we share some live videos and we say hello to everyone. And if you have a question just come on and ask us because we believe that it's part of communication to ask questions.

Kathi 17:54

Absolutely. And that group is designed to be there to support you guys with what you're going through and help you create change in your life. So we do urge you to come on over and join us and get to know Daisy and I much better as there's a lot of stuff happening in there that you will not see anywhere else. So we're going to wrap it up for our episode on communication there today. And we thank you for your time, your support and please do get in touch with us if there's anything you'd like to say. We love feedback. And don't forget to hit subscribe on your favorite podcast listening platform.

Daisy 18:32

That is wonderful. Exactly and share because we share so much with you. So you're welcome to share with us. Thank you so much for listening and talk to you soon. 

Kathi 18:42

See you next time. 

Daisy 18:43

Bye. 

Daisy 18:44

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SUMMARY KEYWORDS 

beginning, people, passionate, uncertainty, world, attitude, fear, passion, podcast, speak, important, Hungarian, absolutely, bent, happen, mmm, listen, big, tree

SPEAKERS 

Kathi, Daisy

Daisy 00:04

Bald and Blonde. Welcome to the Mindset Evolution podcast. Hear about tips, tricks, skills, tools, inspiration, mental hygiene, know what you want and how to create what you desire to achieve predictable results, and create a content life wherever you are. And here are your hosts, Kathi Tait and Daisy Papp.

Kathi 00:29

And Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of Bald and Blonde Mindset Evolution. I'm your host, Kathi Tait, the baldwarrior from down under in Australia and with me, as always is Daisy Papp from Florida Keys. Hi, Daisy.

Daisy 00:48

Hi, Kathi Down Under. Hello from Florida, South Florida, almost the southernmost point, which would be Key West. I'm a little bit north east of it. And it's wonderful to see you and hear you. So, let's do another one.

Kathi 01:05

Yes, in honor of our calendar changing to 2021. I've decided that today we're going to talk about beginnings.

Daisy 01:16

Oh, that's great. Good. Okay, let's do it, that's a good one.

Kathi 01:20

I think it's a great topic, because we like to help people look forward and not look back and I think that New Year's is traditionally a time where we actually do that. And so perhaps the origin of that is because we're conditioned to make new year's resolutions. But never mind, the resolutions. I just want to talk about looking forward and seeing things as beginnings, because we believe that there is an infinite pool of infinite possibility out there and in a world gone mad, as I like to say there is a lot of uncertainty, so I want to encourage people to think about the future in a positive light, because I believe that the more positive energy that we can think and live in, the better our surroundings will be in a positive way.

Daisy 02:19

Yes, I agree. And beginnings do not need to be related to any time of year because we can begin every morning a new day

Kathi 02:28

Absolutely.

Daisy 02:29

Or we can begin to learn something new every moment, we can start listening to the world's greatest podcast anytime. So that's also, I know, I know. I mean, it in a humble way, though. But really listening to it during the editing process really fills my heart. And I say, okay, so it's a new beginning, every time we start the editing process, it's a wonderful new beginning. And then let's see what I can bring into this project to make it come alive more and more and more and more and then our listeners out there, they go on their iPad, or iPhone, or any phone or computer or in a car over Bluetooth and can listen to our podcast. This is amazing. It's every single time a new beginning. So, you can do it anytime and I truly believe that the attitude really matters. Because that moment of the beginning, that energy that we feel, oh, I have to start something new now. That will drag through it all. But when I say okay, so this is a new beginning, let's see what this brings. And let's see how I can bring in the best I can. So, I make sure that I can bring in the best version of myself. And then look how the beginning feels. And every single day when you say, hmm, okay, so how can I bring even better stuff into this project or this period of time or into this new beginning or whatever happens afterwards, then this has an impact, measurable impact on the outcome?

Kathi 04:08

Absolutely.

Daisy 04:09

So you better make sure that you have a good attitude when you begin something new.

Kathi 04:13

Absolutely. And I was going to bring up a similar point because I believe that we can choose how we feel about anything. And I think that a lot of people can get stuck in fear and uncertainty and that then can create an attitude of fear and a negative sort of outlook. But in fact, we're free to choose to see a beginning as something exciting, something full of potential, something where, sure we don't know what's going to happen, but be okay with that because anything is truly possible.

Daisy 04:55

Yes, a lot of things are possible that is beyond our imagination. Not everything is possible when it comes to me being able to fly like a bird. I'm not even trying because I don't try to achieve something impossible.

Kathi 05:08

You can if you're in a plane, Daisy.

Daisy 05:11

Oh, no, no, no, no. So, I'm not going to do the skydiving. No, I was invited, not doing that. Thank you, no. (Laughter) I know you would. I know, you would.

Kathi 05:20

No, what I mean is that we think things aren't possible but sometimes we just have to tweak the way we see it becoming possible, then, like maybe something will happen, not in the way we thought it would happen. But it is still possible. So, we can fly like a bird. We just need a plane to do it.

Daisy 05:41

That's the point of view. Okay, I respect that. I do believe that when we begin something, there is most of the time some excitement to it. But then there are other people who procrastinate a new beginning, because they're so afraid of the unknown. And now how can we overcome that? I think that is very important.

Kathi 06:01

Yes.

Daisy 06:02

And it comes down to the fears. What's the worst of the worst? I have the methods when I work one on one with clients, and they also have their fears, or they have their concerns towards the future? What will happen with the studies of their children, with their parents? Should they move from one state to another overseas, maybe? And then there's lots of uncertainty. And then I straightforward ask them. So, what's the worst of the worst that could happen? And that may come with that great imagination, huh? The little Steven Spielberg's all show up, the great movie producers show up that's hidden within them and then they are able to portray the worst-case scenario and be really upset about it. It's not happening right here right now. So that's what I help them first to understand. And then they say no, of course but they could, there's probability, and I suggest there is and then what I help them do is emotionally getting detached from that worst case scenario, so that they can feel more empowered, and then be more courageous to start. Is it always comfortable to start anew? It really depends on the context.

Kathi 07:10

yes

Daisy 07:12

and the situation. But then a beginning? Don't we begin something because there's an outlook that we find

attractive?

Kathi 07:19

I think so.

Daisy 07:20

Okay, I do believe when we have that outlook that we want to achieve, or create, or get done, or something we want to go to make happen, that we can shorten that journey and/or make the experience way more exciting and pleasant while we are on the journey after the beginning.

Kathi 07:43

Yes, absolutely. Which comes back to choosing to have a positive attitude, choosing to be okay with uncertainty because you have a goal and you might have set out all the actions that you're going to take to reach that goal, but you often don't know, what might happen in the meantime, because we can't control everything. We can only control ourselves at the end of the day. Stuff happens.

Daisy 08:14

Yes. All the time.

Kathi 08:15

Yes. So, I believe that if we can focus on our goal, take the actions we need to take and be okay with stuff happening,

Daisy 08:25

that's right

Kathi 08:25

and know that you have the strength and the ability to deal with it when it does, like the old saying, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

Daisy 08:35

Mmm

Kathi 08:35

Because we have faith that we can, or we have belief that we can achieve that goal.

Daisy 08:41

Yes.

Kathi 08:41

So for me, it's about believing that the goal is attainable, and that I am doing what I can in my power to reach that goal. And if other stuff happens, in the meantime, from anything external to me that I can't control, well, I'll deal with it if it comes up. But I'm certainly not going to spend any of my energy worrying about whether it's going to happen because stuff just happens. It just does. So you could spend all your energy all the time worrying about something that might or might not ever happen and then how much energy have you got left to actually focus on that goal.

Daisy 09:20

I believe that life is a series of uncertainties. Therefore, I think it's a great idea to wake up from the illusion that we are in control. And focus on what you can control and stop focusing on what you cannot control. And now here comes really that self-esteem and the self-belief in that will help us to be more and more flexible. I've seen it here three years ago, little more than three years ago, when this devastating hurricane came through my area. It hit us directly, so not like 100 miles away or something, it was here, and I've seen the many plants that were gone. And then I've seen bushes and trees that recovered. And interestingly, I had this one massive tree, the tree is so massive that I cannot even hug the trunk. That big thing did not survive the hurricane. But the other one that is relatively tiny and skinny, you know how that survived?

Kathi 10:24

Because it was flexible, I believe, and it bent with the wind, which I think is something that palm trees do, right, they bend with the wind, I've been to Fiji. And on one particular beach, these palm trees are permanently bent over because of the wind that comes in off the ocean. And they now grow bent.

Daisy 10:47

That's right, it happened here on my beach and at the neighbor's property, that some of these palms, they were almost uprooted because we had a big flood here from the storm surge and palm trees have very shallow roots. So, it's not that they go very deep. And that's when sometimes you see them fallen over, but these here they just been bent, bent, and now they're growing that bent way. They don't give up. They made a decision. Okay, I begin to grow when they were these tiny little seeds and look at them now. So the flexible tree will survive, and not the strongest, tallest, hmm?

Kathi 11:24

rigid tree.

Daisy 11:26

Yes,

Kathi 11:26

I agree. It's a great analogy.

Daisy 11:29

When we begin something, let's remember and maybe make it as a mantra that you repeat, okay, let me be flexible. But if it doesn't work out this way, then I move there. If I cannot move there, then I go there. If it doesn't work that way, maybe I will find somebody who will know how to solve it. And if they don't know, then there must be someone else. Or maybe we as a community solve it together. So that in mind, makes it so much easier to begin.

Kathi 11:59

Yes. And I think that it removes a lot of the scary part of uncertainty when you think that way

Daisy 12:07

yes,

Kathi 12:07

because ultimately, none of us is alone, unless we make it so.

Daisy 12:14

Yes.

Kathi 12:14

And there is a saying in the business world that no successful business person ever got to be so successful solely on their own.

Daisy 12:22

That's right.

Kathi 12:23

And I believe that's true. We need other people.

Daisy 12:26

I agree 100%. And I see it in many businesses around me, I see it in our venture with the podcast and the power meditations that we are releasing. And we see it now that there's so much support there. And so many new ideas are brought to us that help reach more people so that more people can benefit from these powerful, powerful programs that we're creating. And that's, again, shows you I by myself, I could have created it all by myself. But then what am I doing with it, I need still all the people on our team, right, who supported and bringing in a new light and a new aspect onto a new platform into a different group of people into different marketplaces. And that is so important. But at one time, that specific program that we released in November, it also was only a seed at one moment in time. And what did we do? I started working on it long before I met you, and then we started working on it and then we brainstormed about it and then we tested it and then we found more people to test it. And then the results came in from the beta groups and the results were so astonishing and then other people got interested and we have such a big team now, which is just wow. But we had to begin.

Kathi 13:49

Yes.

Daisy 13:50

I know many people have great ideas, and they're sitting on it. Do nothing with it.

Kathi 13:55

Yes.

Daisy 13:56

So, as you said, I think you phrase it brilliantly when you say, because life is a series of uncertainties, let's take the fear and the scare out of it. And that's exactly the point.

Kathi 14:10

Absolutely. Absolutely. Because I think fear is the fastest way to stop action.

Daisy 14:19

Look at our world nowadays.

Kathi 14:20

Yes, absolutely.

Daisy 14:22

So, let's begin. And then if you don't know what to begin, then look around what other people are passionate about. Not what other people succeed with. I wouldn't go that route because that's a trap. But when I see someone who's so passionate about what they're doing, and I listen to them, and I may not be interested in their little turtle nesting, whatever protection banners that they just build, now I'm really not into that. I'm into turtles because I find them really amazing and we have lots of them here in the Keys, but I'm not really so much interested in the turtle nests and such, but the person speaking about, it's so passionate, what they're saying that. Wow. And when I then see well, they found something that really so passionate about, then maybe it inspires me to find something that I'm so passionate about. Or it helps me remember, what is it that I'm so passionate about? Or let me have a look in the past? When was I really, really passionate about something? And now then, if we humans, this, almost 8 billion people would do what we are passionate about the majority of us, are they still sometimes things I don't like to do? Yes, but I change my attitude, so I like doing it. Because it's part of it.

Kathi 15:39

Hmm

Daisy 15:40

See, I sometimes I really, really like to sleep, and I love my bed. It's so comfortable. And the sheets are wonderful. And I truly, truly like to sleep and my body needs it. But sometimes I don't want to go to sleep because there's so much to learn. I'm so passionate. And then I can do this and then record that. And then let's test it. And let's see, what does it do me, how I feel about it, when I listen to something for five minutes and all the sudden I feel really, really amazing. I know that when whoever out there is going to listen to it and will feel exactly just wonderfully amazing. So the beginning is what needs the nursing, only in the beginning. Because when you're passionate about it, you will go by yourself. You see back to my sleep, I really love to sleep, I like it, I really enjoy being in bed. But I don't want to go there because other things are so much more important. You see, because my passion kicks in.

Kathi 16:35

Mmm

Daisy 16:36

Why do I say that about my bed? (Laughter) Maybe I'm tired.

Kathi 16:40

You make it sound very comfortable like a little nest. And it sounds quite delightful. But I think your point about passion is extremely important here, because it is passion that will keep you going through adversity.

Daisy 16:55

Yeah.

Kathi 16:55

And I think that a lot of people out there in the world have forgotten their passion.

Daisy 17:00

M'hm

Kathi 17:01

And it can be tough to rediscover it. So, I do agree, take inspiration from other people who are passionate, and have a look internally and think about the things that you really want. And what of those things really fires you up and gives you that juice to be passionate, because it is passion that will help you overcome the adversity, that will no doubt happen because stuff happens. It does. But it doesn't mean we should allow that stuff to get in our way to an extent where it stops us. It doesn't mean that we should allow fear in to stop us from doing something. Because fear is just a state of mind.

Daisy 17:49

Mmm

Kathi 17:49

And we can choose to embrace it, and deal with it in a way that is healthy so that it doesn't take us over and paralyze us.

Daisy 17:59

Mmm and then when it comes to the beginning, so my childhood girlfriend, she lives in Germany. And as children, we spent some time in Hungary together on summer vacation. And she didn't speak Hungarian at the time, I didn't speak Hungarian at the time, I learned later when I went to study there. And she never learned it. But she now two weeks ago signed up for a Hungarian language class.

Kathi 18:23

Excellent. What prompted her to do that, after all this time,

Daisy 18:27

because she loves languages, she already speaks seven. So, she needed to find an eighth that she could learn. She speaks those fluently, by the way. And now she's going to this Hungarian language course. And please remember, Hungarian is in the topmost difficult languages on this globe. And so, she's just so passionate about it. Guess what? She's going to learn so much faster than other participants who are not that passionate about it. Maybe those who were oh, why don't you go there so that you can speak with your friend's mother better or something like that, or for whatever else reason somebody was sent to learn Hungarian. You see, that's the beginning. The energy that's there in the seed

Kathi 19:08

and the intention, I think,

Daisy 19:10

yes, whatever seed already knows what it's going to be, not consciously but maybe yes, maybe we didn't discover that yet. And it already has the intention to be what it will be. Right. That's the intention. And then it has no doubt, all it wants to do is grow. And then it does and then comes the hurricane and it's still growing.

Hmm? So, the beginning, notice what's holding you back to start.

Kathi 19:34

Yes, I think that's important. I think if we are fearful of something or uncertain and it's stopping us, let's look at it deeper. And so, what is it exactly?

Daisy 19:46

Okay, and then put it aside and then make another list and write down. What is it that makes you so passionate about it? What is it?

Kathi 19:55

Yes.

Daisy 19:56

What is it that drives you there? Why do you want that? Oh, because my neighbor also has that, maybe not that good start for a beginning, unless that's really something you're also passionate about. That's what I believe.

Kathi 20:08

Yes. So folks, what we just did there was, say, bring in awareness to what it is stopping you, but immediately then bring in awareness to your passion, because where your focus goes, everything grows, and we don't want your focus to be on the negative and the fear, we want your focus to be on the possibilities and the potential and the passion.

Daisy 20:33

Exactly what if it's going right? What if one day, you look back and say that was the greatest beginning of all times, I chose to start! Hmm? What if? Because humans, we humans we're so conditioned to ask Oh, but what if this doesn't work right? What if that happens? What if this what if that and the other? But let's turn it round? What if I succeed? What if this is a great path? What if this is a great decision? What if this is a good beginning, and you see what is. Some clients I work with, also are in front of a new beginning. They're just on the doorstep of and then they come to me, and then they're so uncertain, because they're so afraid of making a mistake. And then I share with them that look, you can make this decision now freely, wholeheartedly, with all your passion. This is not a life sentence. Are you aware of that? And that already lightens them up? Only because I started today, when we record our podcast episodes, I push the start button on the recording. But I also push the stop button. Only because I push the start button doesn't mean I need to do this now for the next 24 years, 24/7!

Kathi 21:54

Yes, that's correct. We always have a choice. And so the way you think about it is really important. So you can choose to think about it in a way where I have to do this. And now I'm going to have to do it forever, or you can think about it in I'm going to try this. This looks exciting. And if it turns out I don't want to do this, well, then I'll just change,

Daisy 22:19

Mmm, look at little children, try to help them understand that it would be better they play 10 minutes longer than they're in the mood to, uh-uh, doesn't work. They play with a little firefighter car and then after that, they don't like that anymore. They come maybe and play a little bit with the teddy and then they cuddle a little bit on the couch. And then they get up and play with the big firefighter car and then they look at something else. And then they play with wooden blocks, whatever. But only until it's fun for them.

Kathi 22:49

Yes,

Daisy 22:50

Of course we as humans we also need endurance, right? In some projects and after some beginnings, the persistence,

Kathi 23:00

yeah.

Daisy 23:00

but nevertheless, when you're afraid of having a new beginning, to begin something new, and you're afraid of that, remind yourself that this is not a life sentence.

Kathi 23:10

And you always have a choice.

Daisy 23:11

Yeah.

Kathi 23:12

And your attitude will determine how you perceive the world. So, if you go out there and interact in the world with a negative attitude, you're probably going to get negativity back.

Daisy 23:25

Because that's how your experience will be. You determine the experience based on your attitudes

Kathi 23:31

and your perceptions.

Daisy 23:32

Yeah,

Kathi 23:33

and I know when I was stuck in a world of fear and uncertainty and it ruled me, that when I went out into the world with no self-confidence and no self-esteem, I perceived people's reactions differently than when I did go out in the world with a positive attitude and a self-confidence. The perception that you have about other people is always rooted in yourself.

Daisy 24:04

Yeah,

Kathi 24:05

It was one of the most important lessons I ever learned.

Daisy 24:08

I can see that. And I'm glad you did. I'm glad you learned it

Kathi 24:13

Oh, me too!

Daisy 24:16

Yes, I hear you. (Laughter) Yeah, so new beginnings. And then if you don't think of new beginnings, then that's fine too. But you see, our body has trillions of cells and their dying cells, millions and millions, millions of cells die every, every single day in our bodies. And then there are new cells born. Millions and millions and millions of new cells are born. Every day is a new beginning. That's life when we think of it isn't it? So next morning when you wake up, look at it as a new beginning. When you make smaller steps and you say okay, so every morning is a new beginning of a unit, then it's also already a much better feeling, isn't it?

Kathi 25:07

Yes, I think things are much easier to get your head around if you can think in terms of small steps instead of giant leaps, because giant leaps can encourage the uncertainty in a negative way. And I don't mean don't set giant goals because we certainly have giant goals. And what I mean is break them down into little pieces that are achievable, that you can have confidence in, that you can believe that you can do, break them down to be as small as you need them to be.

Daisy 25:41

And then look back, that little step that you just made, or the big quantum leap that you just made. And show some admiration.

Kathi 25:50

Yes, celebrate it! Absolutely.

Daisy 25:53

Yeah, towards yourself, because then that will encourage you naturally, to take the next new beginning. And then in NLP, it's very, very basic that we say, chunk down, make it into small pieces, they have that famous saying, so how can you eat the bicycle? And people said, well, it's not possible

Kathi 26:13

Eat a bicycle? Or maybe not eat

Daisy 26:18

Yes, you grind it down into tiny pieces. And then, of course, you could eat it. You could. I'm not saying it's healthy, don't do it. But it's possible. So therefore, even the impossible can be possible. That's why that's an important part, to understand that things are possible. So start, begin, begin that course that you're interested in, begin that career, begin that adventure, when you want to travel. It's a little difficult now, but possible.

Kathi 26:48

I think that it is certainly still possible, we just may have to make shorter journeys in the meantime.

Daisy 26:56

Yeah, and begin, especially every day, with that attitude, how can I be the best today? And I'm not talking competition. I'm talking how can I be the best self I can be today.

Kathi 27:10

Yeah

Daisy 27:10

And that already is such a great attitude. I really enjoy doing that because that helps me get going and make the impossible possible.

Kathi 27:18

Absolutely.

Daisy 27:19

Yeah. So, that's about beginning. And now it comes soon. And

Kathi 27:25

now it does. That is our episode for today dear listeners, we just want to say thank you once again for all of your support. And to let you know that we have released our amazing new program called the SelfRecoding® Well-Being Program has been bringing in such astounding results from our beta groups, that we are truly excited to release it to the whole world and help you guys out there be your best version. And it helps the body naturally balanced itself, which has all sorts of incredible outcomes for ourselves, not only physically but mentally. And emotionally, it really does help us be our best version. So we're really, really excited about that release. If you would like to know more about that, just jump over onto our website, bold and blonde dot live, or jump over to our Facebook page, bold and blonde podcast.

Daisy 28:28

I'm personally so excited about the SelfRecoding® Well-Being Program because seeing people really getting harmony in their body and the organs functioning well, and the immune system functioning on its highest level. And when you see what happens, people look different. They speak differently, they walk differently. They're just rejuvenated in ways that is almost miraculous. And it's very exciting.

Kathi 28:56

It certainly is. And we believe that this can impact the world on such a great scale and have so many positive effects, which is why we're talking about it today when we speak about beginnings.

Daisy 29:10

M'hm. Well, and now I'm going to push the end button. So it is wonderful to speak about beginnings and go ahead and begin something new. Because every day, every moment is new. And only because your past moments were a certain way doesn't mean that the new moment is going to be the same. Unless you make it such.

Kathi 29:31

 Yes, I believe that it's all in the way we look at uncertainty, we can look at it with fear or we can look at it with unlimited potential. So we'll leave you with that thought dear listeners and we look forward to joining you again next week for another episode of Bald and Blonde

Daisy 29:52

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